Starting SBC notchback mustang build

Was wondering what should be a limit of boost for this turbo. Some guys just use it to about 25lbs, that was where i may stop the turbo. But some have been over the 30 - 40 pounds range.

Dusty, I looked at your timing suggestions and this what i am up with for this box, it can take out 1,2, or 3 degrees and start at 0,1,2,3,4, or 5 pounds. It can take up to 15 degrees out of total timing.


With 34 total timing it will be at 19 degrees at 19 lbs.

Meaning from 19 to 25 or whatever pounds the motor would be at 19 degrees timing.

So what is too low of timing or this is the best solution for the exterme temp from the boost. Or will it be a dog after all that timing coming out.

malibuick231 what is the higheset you take your s480 and what is your launch boost and timing also.

The car will still run fine with 18* of timing. With the cast heads I'd be looking at no more that 22* at 30# of boost so 20-24* at 20-24# of boost will be fine on C16. A S475 on your motor will probably only make 15-20# anyway. A buddy had a 406 with 75mm with AFR heads and could only make 16# at 6500 rpm.
 
keep your eyes open and watch the sites for parts that are used, i found everthing i have on my motor used but never been out of the box for several hundred dollars less than new.
 
Looking at a fast system,now!!!

And going to sell my 6al box, distributer, 2 step, coil, retard box, and carb.

And pick up a digital 6 box, crank trigger distributer, hvc coil, and crank trigger wheel. (without coil can get everything for 400)

Have my intake modified by someone like wilson or speedtech (whats a good efi fuel conversion kit to use)

intake elbow form edelbrock or intakeelbows.com

what size throttle body 75mm (2.95 in), 80mm (3.15 in), or 90 mm (3.5 in)
 
Intake elbows.com will do the conversion for much less than high priced wilson.

Ill say it again..Did you take a look at the Victor EFI intake? You should. Price is right.
For ignition Crane Hi 6 line and coils. You can buy combos for less than MSD. They are compact and powerfull. Also no pills to buy. Many of the TSM guys are using them and several V8 conversion cars as well.

80mm TB ..
 
Weiland 7530 intake (already have)
2800-7200 rpm stock
2800-7800 rpm with 3/4" spacer
3000-8200 rpm with 2" spacer

The edelbrock intake with rails looking at 500.00 so will the conversion of my intake and rails should not cost that much. And look at the rpm range on that intake which is 4500-8500 compared to mines with 2" spacer of 3000-8200. And the cam I am using will have a rpm range of 3500-6500.

So what does intakeelbows.com charge for efi intake conversion?

Also the digital 6 plus has no pills with 2 rev limits (launch/overrevv) and a single stage retard built in (nitrous or top end)
 
i know the fast controls the timing by getting the signal from the ignition system (msd).

also while sourcing for parts, i ran across the gt45 y2004k turbo, t4 t66 turbo. what about twins using this turbo it has a 750 -1100 hp range.
 
i found one fast system for sell and call fast the box is a bank to bank fast classic system which they can't convert to sequential anymore. The tech said to get a sequential box with a turbo setup.
 
It will run in bank to bank just fine. FAST does not modify boxes any longer , but there are other ways. Hartline Performance can perform some of those modifications or have them done for you. I suggest you give cal or Holly a call, you may be better off getting a used Clasic unit from them or a new XFI. (321)722-1563

On another note, dont get too hung up on those intake RPM operating numbers. Remember that on a FI system , the intake is flowing dry, without fuel. The volume requirement is not the same.

Also when you get a quote from Wilsons on a FI conversion, post it, Their prices are HIGH!
 
i found one fast system for sell and call fast the box is a bank to bank fast classic system which they can't convert to sequential anymore. The tech said to get a sequential box with a turbo setup.

PM Craig Smith he can still convert the B2B last time I contacted him. I need to have mine done also, it's been awhile so I'm not sure about the cost. Let me know if you find out.
 
Thanks guy,

With all the info I am receiving from you guys make me know why I joined this group, and also have meet some great people from this group:D . Dusty every OSCRA event in the south and Cal a brief second at Reynolds 07 (with Jim C) and Holly to buy some valve covers for my Turbo T. I bought a classis fast system and will have to get a v8 injector harness. I sold my msd stuff and picked up a digital 6 with a crank trigger system from a friend. And my turbo has changed again. I use to work at a diesel repair shop back home and was always thinking if certain turbos from diesels would work on cars. So i start ed with the bw s400 series turbos which is the main turbo for the detriot diesel 60 series engine and malibuick231 is using a s480. I went home this pass weekend and went to the track it had a good crowd of cars and few spectators. So around the barrel of fire I was talking with my buddy I haven't seen in awhile told him about my new build and talking about the turbo. He said, "come to the truck and look at this turbo he had removed (warrenty) from his 08 Pete. It is a 171701 borg warner turbo he replaced for other issues and the turbo was not the problem, he gave it to me:eek: . I called Bullseye Turbo today and they comfirmed it to be a s472 (72mm) with 1.32 a/r T6 frame:p . Come to find out that most of the borg warner turbos do not have core charges for a new turbo. My old job is saving any s400 series turbo for now on:biggrin: , and maybe I will getting in the business of getting them rebuilt and selling them . It is the same as any borg warner 72mm sold taday, it can't be called a s472 by borg warner (legal stuff) and can be upgraded to an 80mm (currently) or (next month) 83mm. Borg warner have 88mm and 91 mm turbos ;) out there on 2008 - 2010 diesels.

I may be going twins!!!!!!!!!

Also the engine will be a built 9.5:1 421sbc with my current heads, since i saved some money now.

But anymore more info would be greatly aknowledged!!!!
 
I picked up a classis FAST bank to bank system today for ;) 575.00 :biggrin: shipped but have to get a v8 injector harness and engine harness.

This is all what I got in the auction

FAST ECU
FAST Engine harness 4 cylinder (will modify if it can be)
FAST Injector harness 4 cylinder (will modify if it can be)
FAST software and data cable
FAST Idle Air Control motor ($400 alone, he stated)
Map sensor (3 bar) with a spare map sensor either a 1 bar or 2 bar
TPS, Air Temp, Water Temp, and Wide Band O2 sensor
IBM laptop

Had my hands on a Data Logger ($175) but by time the guy replied it was sold, racingjunk is a little different then us guys here. So with the included latop i just i will have to build a mount in the car for it.

95lb/hr injectors are good to 1094hp and 160lb/hr are good to 1843hp by FAST

so what are 120lb/hr injectors good to?


So there I have been converted to EFI for real now!!!!!
 

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Sounds like you got a great deal.

The only thing im having a question about is this 400.00 idle air motor?
 
I will pick up my fresh 400 bored .030 over half poured with eagle splayed 4 bolt main caps and clearenced for a 4.000 stroke, and studded up top for 400.00 someone stole the guys rotating assy. so no use for him.

my friend lost 3 rods and pistons in his 421 and went big block and i a get sfi balancer, sfi flywheel, eagle 3.875 crank ($1200), and 5 eagle 3d rods for 650.00 the pistons are 11:1 but no use for them

my aeromotive pump and regulator came in for a total of 289.00 refurbed

so i am on way to boost heaven

but just havent time because of the build of our new casino about to open on the 6th of jan. in atmore (wind creek casino and hotel) (poarch creek indians)
 
You are going to have a hard time sticking a turbo piston with that much stroke in that block. It can be done but something will be compromised. Either wrist pin location /height or crown thickness, take you pic...LOL

You should really try for less stroke. As before I suggest 3.750 max. And before you buy a crank I would have the deck height checked on that block.
 
You are going to have a hard time sticking a turbo piston with that much stroke in that block. It can be done but something will be compromised. Either wrist pin location /height or crown thickness, take you pic...LOL

You should really try for less stroke. As before I suggest 3.750 max. And before you buy a crank I would have the deck height checked on that block.

Hopefully it's a 5.7 or 5.85 rod at the longest. If it's a 6.0 rod your gonna have problems with the pistons.
 
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