Who would like to be able to EDIT there post's?

[scot w.]

Edit Feature.......

Okay so you may have a point on a COUPLE of things that go wrong or can go wrong. But as I just posted some stuff for sale today at 4:18pm and tried to post more stuff up 1hr later and I COULDN'T. (VERY FRUSTRATING!) It would be nice to be able to go back in and ADD more stuff for sale on the same thread instead of making a new one. I really would like to see you admins at least think about the possitives and the ideas that your members have along with your members needs instead of a run of negitives this board encountered a long time ago. Taking away isn't always the problem solver! Try to solve the problem WITHOUT taking away, I'm sure there is a way to do so, but from hearing your replies I don't think your giving it any thought and I think we HONEST PEOPLE should have the right to edit our own threads & posts... Scot w.

 

[turbo2nr]

The ability for a moderator to see if any changes to post will not be changed. The mods have the ability to referee a fight if needed. They could say, "well, I see Mr.X changed(edited) his part description AFTER you sent him the money".

There will always be a way to see what the original post was, and it's changes.,.....so why not allow the infinate edit. I don't see your arguement so easily. The hard records will still be there, but the difference will be that we can update our for sale stuff, and remove our drunken foot-n-mouth posts the day after, or common mistakes, etc.

 

[scot w.]

The ability for a moderator to see if any changes to post will not be changed. The mods have the ability to referee a fight if needed. They could say, "well, I see Mr.X changed(edited) his part description AFTER you sent him the money".

There will always be a way to see what the original post was, and it's changes.,.....so why not allow the infinate edit. I don't see your arguement so easily. The hard records will still be there, but the difference will be that we can update our for sale stuff, and remove our drunken foot-n-mouth posts the day after, or common mistakes, etc.

My point exactly! The whole point of this thread is to let the ADMINS see just how many people want this feature back! It would be nice to be able to: Add stuff for sale to the same thread ( instead of making a new one), spelling corrections if need be, Go back and put "sold" next to stuff that has sold in the for sale section, For the people like g-body parts and other "PAYING" vendors this has got to be a pain in the a*s. there seems to be alot of pro's and only a few cons to this. hopefully they can figure out a way to give us members this option.. Scot w.

 

[Geoff87]

The ability for a moderator to see if any changes to post will not be changed. The mods have the ability to referee a fight if needed. They could say, "well, I see Mr.X changed(edited) his part description AFTER you sent him the money".

There will always be a way to see what the original post was, and it's changes.,.....so why not allow the infinate edit. I don't see your arguement so easily. The hard records will still be there, but the difference will be that we can update our for sale stuff, and remove our drunken foot-n-mouth posts the day after, or common mistakes, etc.

Remember that there is a diifference between deleting and editing a post.

I see that you have edited your post. I have absolutely NO IDEA what was written before. If there is a way to see that, then I'l have to ask Jay how, because I sure as hell don't know how to view it....

So if a post is deleted, I can view it, unless it was done by an admin. But if it's edited, I dont know what was edited, if anything. The only thing I will know is that it was changed somehow...

It makes sense to me that the members should have the ability to edit their posts in the parts for sale and cars for sale sections ONLY. But unfortunately, this is a case where a "few bad apples, spoiled it for the whole bunch".....

I hope you can see where we are coming from on this...

Maybe some sort of feedback point system like E-bay is needed? Once you reach a certain number of positives, then it could be safely assumed that a member is trustworthy, and the ability to edit posts will be implemented?..

 

[scot w.]

Remember that there is a diifference between deleting and editing a post.

I see that you have edited your post. I have absolutely NO IDEA what was written before. If there is a way to see that, then I'l have to ask Jay how, because I sure as hell don't know how to view it....

So if a post is deleted, I can view it, unless it was done by an admin. But if it's edited, I dont know what was edited, if anything. The only thing I will know is that it was changed somehow...

It makes sense to me that the members should have the ability to edit their posts in the parts for sale and cars for sale sections ONLY. But unfortunately, this is a case where a "few bad apples, spoiled it for the whole bunch".....

I hope you can see where we are coming from on this...

Maybe some sort of feedback point system like E-bay is needed? Once you reach a certain number of positives, then it could be safely assumed that a member is trustworthy, and the ability to edit posts will be implemented?..

Something should be done! Example: if a bunch of people are crashing on a certian streach of road in the rain, 1) (use the easy button) and just close the road? 2) (use the easy button) and put up a slower speed sign? or 3) re-pave the road so it's not as slipery?. I think TB should be able to clearly see a members past by viewing there past posts and what members are doing now. TRY THIS:> I would think that TB could impliment the Edit feature and see how it goes and if it goes fine "great!" if not take that feature AWAY from the members that don't use it properly. That would be easy to spot and easy to take away from the bad ones. It's worth a try at least... Scot w.

 

[WINDMILL]

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why can't they just have it for the for sale items only? just a thought that went in one ear and out the other.

 

[tomcatturbo]

Poll It....

I'd say take a "Poll" and see how many people would want the ability to edit their own original posts without a time limit as opposed to not.

I'd vote for edit at any time, as it helps out a lot more than hurts anything IMO....

Also, there are times when a person can post something that they feel they possibly regret (for example an opinion or feedback, or add/change to an original thread of a priced Item for Sale), as can happen to just about anyone.

 

[scot w.]

Poll up!!

The poll is up people vote!!!

 

[JayC]

why can't they just have it for the for sale items only? just a thought that went in one ear and out the other.

Its a global setting. You cant specify individual forums that way. There may be some kind of VB mod to allow that. With the upcoming 3.6 upgrade (Probably tomorrow after I get back from Florida), maybe I can come up with something.

 

[Bweavy]

To edit & delte or not too

Two reasons I would say not to be able to edit parts that are sold or are for sale is that a person doing research needs to sell some parts.
Ok you are getting ready to sell your car & all your parts what is a used tensioner worth? What do they sell for? A person can go in the parts for sale section & see ok Person A sold 1 for $50 with 100K miles on it. Person B sold 1 for $65 with 75K on it.
That is what should be done instead of a person posting "what are these parts worth???"
Believe me I know it is aggrevating when you have to relist what is sold because a person doesn't want to read 2 pages of what is sold.
I think an edit button is good for 24 hours. You sell half of your parts start a new parts for sale thread.

What if you buy a part & it takes a week to get there & isn't as described & the seller Edits.Then says that he never sold it? Or I never said it was new I said it was used?But describd in his thread new?

I think that is a built in safe guard to prevent this type of problem.

 

[scot w.]

Two reasons I would say not to be able to edit parts that are sold or are for sale is that a person doing research needs to sell some parts.
Ok you are getting ready to sell your car & all your parts what is a used tensioner worth? What do they sell for? A person can go in the parts for sale section & see ok Person A sold 1 for $50 with 100K miles on it. Person B sold 1 for $65 with 75K on it.
That is what should be done instead of a person posting "what are these parts worth???"
Believe me I know it is aggrevating when you have to relist what is sold because a person doesn't want to read 2 pages of what is sold.
I think an edit button is good for 24 hours. You sell half of your parts start a new parts for sale thread.

What if you buy a part & it takes a week to get there & isn't as described & the seller Edits.Then says that he never sold it? Or I never said it was new I said it was used?But describd in his thread new?

I think that is a built in safe guard to prevent this type of problem.

That ONE type of problem can be solved with alittle thinking. No matter what way your still going to get people who ask " what are these parts worth?" It is VERY aggrevating relisting and relisting after EVERY part that is sold. it's crazy!! Sell half of the parts and then start a new parts for sale thread? This is the sole reason for this! so a person don't have to go through all that trouble. Come on here! What if you buy a part and it takes a week to get there & it isn't as described & the seller edits. Then says that he never sold it? thats what the feedback is for to let others know who burns who and for what reason right? So really what the bottom line here is that your needing to be able to keep something in writing for the scamers and the dishonest peolpe. I understand! But there has to be a way we can get both here. I'm not sure of the extent of the editing feature but I will find out and give an idea on a solution to this or I may have some other admins give their advise as to the percautions they use. Scot w.

 

[Bweavy]

That ONE type of problem can be solved with alittle thinking. No matter what way your still going to get people who ask " what are these parts worth?" It is VERY aggrevating relisting and relisting after EVERY part that is sold. it's crazy!! Sell half of the parts and then start a new parts for sale thread? This is the sole reason for this! so a person don't have to go through all that trouble. Come on here! What if you buy a part and it takes a week to get there & it isn't as described & the seller edits. Then says that he never sold it? thats what the feedback is for to let others know who burns who and for what reason right? So really what the bottom line here is that your needing to be able to keep something in writing for the scamers and the dishonest peolpe. I understand! But there has to be a way we can get both here. I'm not sure of the extent of the editing feature but I will find out and give an idea on a solution to this or I may have some other admins give their advise as to the percautions they use. Scot w.

Scott I understand because I sell parts as well believe me.
The feed back section is great here but if you look at the feed back they have the posts to back it up.It takes away any doubt of who said what.
Yes so what I'm saying you need to keep it in writing. I was screwed out of a set of rims on TBS.com & the guy bragged about it. Steve X Now that the post has been a month old unless some one does a search well guess what he screwed me for $250.00.If it were not for the posts who would be able to do that search 3 years from now?
Scott if some one screws you out of $ or states you said it was in great shape but you stated in good shape wouldn't you like to have it in black & white?

 

[scot w.]

Scott I understand because I sell parts as well believe me.
The feed back section is great here but if you look at the feed back they have the posts to back it up.It takes away any doubt of who said what.
Yes so what I'm saying you need to keep it in writing. I was screwed out of a set of rims on TBS.com & the guy bragged about it. Steve X Now that the post has been a month old unless some one does a search well guess what he screwed me for $250.00.If it were not for the posts who would be able to do that search 3 years from now?
Scott if some one screws you out of $ or states you said it was in great shape but you stated in good shape wouldn't you like to have it in black & white?

Yea like I said, I understand the paper trail or (post trail) thing but it sure would be nice to be able to work through this and be able to have BOTH ! I'm a moderator on another board and we really don't encounter much problems at all concerning the editing or people screwing people over. But looking at the big picture: No matter if it's before or after the Edit feature was to be implimented, people will always find a way to screw someone over! It could happen right now! someone could say a part is "new" and when the buyer recives it and its not like it was described the chances are you won't get your money back anyway even if the edit feature isn't there with a post trail, Yea it's back there in writing, big deal! If a person is going to burn someone for $200- 300 or more i'm sure they don't care at that point about there reputation. Now what is the buyer going to do? Anounce it everywhere and let as many people know what the seller did as to warn everyone else and constantly watch out for all his posts right? and possibly go to the athorities too, but none the less i'm sure he would be banned or something from the site for his actions. So what is really the differance ? The big picture is: If someone is going to burn a buyer it is going to happen with or without the edit feature! and we as loyal and honest members will recognise it and stand by one another and I don't need to see a past post to belive a fellow honest and loyal member about his dealings. and when it comes down to the athorities the post with the writing really don't hold much credit so it's clear were wanting to save it just for us to show everyone the truth when we pretty much already know a scammer from a well known guy like yourself Brian. Your one of the best guys I ever delt with over parts and I never had someone handle a situation like you did for me this year the morning before we left for Bowling Green and I would like to thank you again for that! If someone was to burn you over some money or parts, with your reputation I really don't think we need to see the post about it. I'm sure everyone would belive you! That is what i'm getting at... Scot w. (bumper fillers)

 

[Bweavy]

Yea like I said, I understand the paper trail or (post trail) thing but it sure would be nice to be able to work through this and be able to have BOTH ! I'm a moderator on another board and we really don't encounter much problems at all concerning the editing or people screwing people over. But looking at the big picture: No matter if it's before or after the Edit feature was to be implimented, people will always find a way to screw someone over! It could happen right now! someone could say a part is "new" and when the buyer recives it and its not like it was described the chances are you won't get you money back anyway even if the edit feature isn't there with a post trail, Yea it's back there in writing, big deal! If a person is going to burn someone for $200- 300 or more i'm sure they don't care at that point about there reputation. Now what is the buyer going to do? Anounce it everywhere and let as many people know what the seller did as to warn everyone else and constantly watch out for all his posts right?. So what is really the differance ? The big picture is: If someone wants to burn a buyer it is going to happen with or without the edit feature!

I agree Scott.There is always 2 sides to a story. I just felt that if it's black & white there isn't a gray area.If you sell that many parts that the edits bother you I guess you should help out as a vendor? I guess It will be up to Shane & Jay to make the call.
I hope you do not take what I'm saying wrong.It is nothing personal you stated your side I stated mine.Our opinions are like ass holes everyone has one LOL.
Maybe there could be a happy medium in the parts for sale section where we could edit our first post stating sold or pending sale? We couldn't edit anything after that just the original post? That would alleviate alot of confusion.Think about a person buying will read the first post & then proceed.
What do you think about that Scott?

 

[JayC]

Since TurboBuick.Com is pretty much the meca of Buick information (Almost 1,000,000 posts is hard to argue with), Ill most likely install the iTrader mod when the upgrade happens. That will allow Ebay-like feedback for each seller. Doesn't help with the editting situation but at least it's something.

 

[Bweavy]

Since TurboBuick.Com is pretty much the meca of Buick information (Almost 1,000,000 posts is hard to argue with), Ill most likely install the iTrader mod when the upgrade happens. That will allow Ebay-like feedback for each seller. Doesn't help with the editting situation but at least it's something.

Sure Jay take the easy way out

 

[JayC]

Sure Jay take the easy way out

With this crowd, there is no easy way out

 

[Shane]

It makes sense to me that the members should have the ability to edit their posts in the parts for sale and cars for sale sections ONLY. But unfortunately, this is a case where a "few bad apples, spoiled it for the whole bunch".....

Its a global setting. You cant specify individual forums that way. There may be some kind of VB mod to allow that. With the upcoming 3.6 upgrade (Probably tomorrow after I get back from Florida), maybe I can come up with something.

I would like to add Parts Wanted to the list. Sometimes reading that forum can be tedious because of the constant replies saying "I CALLED YOU" "I PM'D YOU BUT UR BOX IS FULL". If people could edit their posts, it might become a bit more legible.

I'll agree that a time limit is needed, for all of the already mentioned reasons but I think we could deal with a little more time. It seems like the hey day of Buick Bulletion Board Drama has passed. Maybe we all grew up

 

[JayC]

It seems like the hey day of Buick Bulletion Board Drama has passed. Maybe we all grew up

I guess you havent been paying attention.

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

I guess you havent been paying attention.

Is that in a joking matter or did sumpin happen?


I posted my opinion before, i dont need to go any further on it..

BW