Why to buy American DP
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Mark Hueffman - Owner
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I find it ironic that fitment issues I have had with some parts lately were made right here in the US.
that happens from time to time. And to all you anti union mfers outhere i am just the person you hate as i am an organizer. So pad up your wallet while some hard working person is on an assembly line for 12hrs straight making 15dollars. damn right they deserve $25per hr. And i want union workers and representation w/o it workers get threathened harassed etc etc. just look at the hitler regime at walmart. i dare not shop there. Sooner or later they will get organized though. Walmart is the evil of America.
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Guys like you are a big part of the problem.
I'm embarrassed FOR you.
Beat that drum all the way to the food bank.
I'm embarrassed FOR you.
Beat that drum all the way to the food bank.
You, are funny sir.
Oh, and by the way, "we" or "you" or "them" deserve EXACTLY what the market will bare.
Can't address an opposing view without bringing it down a level, well, I certainly didn't see that coming.
Have a nice day!
People like your self honestly make me laugh. “And to all you anti union mfers outhere i am just the person you hate as i am an organizer.” and I care because??? Number one, if you want to make your self look and feel important, at least use spell check. Words light up red for a reason. All you are doing is spreading the normal Union crap that nobody really cares about. I grew up in a Union household. My father was a Union Steward at Caterpillar in York PA. So I am very familiar Union tactics. He thought that he would have a lifetime long job with them. But when Caterpillar told the Union that they had to bend a little or they were moving the plant to the Carolinas. The Unions response was not to bend to keep jobs in the area because they thought Cat would never move the whole plant. Well guess what, they did and in the process put thousands of people out of work. Way to go Union, you really showed them a thing or two.
And before you start personal attacks against me, another Union tactic, you really need to take a couple of steps back and look at public opinion of unions. The Union is their own worst enemy. I personally really could give a flying f*ck less about the whole situation. I firmly believe that if given enough rope, people will hang themselves. As pointed out earlier, I assume that you do not shop at Wal-Mart or Target.
BTW I have a Chinese made 3.5 Downpipe on my car from Samballs. It fit and cleared everything fine. I’ve heard of problems with the puck, but have not experienced any problem with it yet.
Target here in Ny is union so yes I do shop there. Any other questions? I guess your father or grandfather would be ashamed of your rhetoric. But who really cares what you think. The Union I am in represents me well and pays me well enough to support the VENDORs on this site. So my other answer is go fuk yourself.
I have tired to stay out of this thread...
90% of this needs to be in the Political Forum...
THIS IS TECH!!!
Far as the China stuff goes I will fill you guys in...
THE STUFF IS CHEAP! Very Cheap... How do you think some guys were selling headers on ebay for 199
The problem is when you get say 100 of them maybe only 60-70 of the units are good. They seem to have bad Q&A if any at all... The bad units look like crap
Now to make those 60-70 units that work "real" good usually someone has to put some elbow grease into the product. Once all this is done you got a "decent" product. It is no longer $199 though...
Do we know the quality and durability of the products yet? Well some of the DPs and headers have been used for 2+ years and appear not to be failing... What will they look like in 5 more years??
Bottom line is you get what you pay for, most of the time. If you bought a china made product that was a good one and it fits good for you. But I bet for every 3 of the fit great no problems there is 1 problem...
Buick guys are noted for wanting it cheap and today... Not all but that is they name we carry with vendors, sorry:frown: So if they can give you a decent product and stand behind it for a better price, they have to eat...
If you have a good vendor that backs his product no matter where it comes from, you can't go wrong there...
Personally, this is just personal opinion, I rather buy an American made product and support our country. However I am not a dummy and think I am only buying American no matter what... Sometimes it just doesn't happen...
90% of this needs to be in the Political Forum...
THIS IS TECH!!!
Far as the China stuff goes I will fill you guys in...
THE STUFF IS CHEAP! Very Cheap... How do you think some guys were selling headers on ebay for 199
The problem is when you get say 100 of them maybe only 60-70 of the units are good. They seem to have bad Q&A if any at all... The bad units look like crap
Now to make those 60-70 units that work "real" good usually someone has to put some elbow grease into the product. Once all this is done you got a "decent" product. It is no longer $199 though...
Do we know the quality and durability of the products yet? Well some of the DPs and headers have been used for 2+ years and appear not to be failing... What will they look like in 5 more years??
Bottom line is you get what you pay for, most of the time. If you bought a china made product that was a good one and it fits good for you. But I bet for every 3 of the fit great no problems there is 1 problem...
Buick guys are noted for wanting it cheap and today... Not all but that is they name we carry with vendors, sorry:frown: So if they can give you a decent product and stand behind it for a better price, they have to eat...
If you have a good vendor that backs his product no matter where it comes from, you can't go wrong there...
Personally, this is just personal opinion, I rather buy an American made product and support our country. However I am not a dummy and think I am only buying American no matter what... Sometimes it just doesn't happen...
It's sad that "you people" have to act like this in public. Are you really getting mistreated that badly at work that you have to act like this? Is "the man" calling in thugs to beat on you if you don't work 12 hour shifts in a non-OSHA compliant environment? Maybe I should start a union with my coworkers. I went to college and got EDUCATED and some guy turning screws on a production line is making almost as much as I am. Oh wait, if I did that, they would just fire everybody because we are treated fairly as it is.
Just the first class response I figured I would get. Truly professional in every aspect. And thank you for your concern about my parents. To be honest they are very proud of me and my accomplishments.
turbobully
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Look the bottom line is what we got going on in this country now isn't working. Now we (as in the entire US population that aren't illegal immigrants) are paying for it. This bailout to GM and ford are going to hit all of our wallets. Personally I am sick and tired of working my ass off trying to better my self, my family, my business, my employees, and my country only to have the union mentality of I should just be handed raises no matter what my performance, were there is no incentive for me to work harder. One of my former customers from PA was a non union shop whose employees tried to unionize so he shut the whole plant down and moved to china because he could not compete paying union wages. Now 100+ people have no jobs, I loose the work here, the trucking companies have nothing to truck, his suppliers have nothing to supply, etc. I understand that people deserve fair wages but the UAW wages are not fair by any means. I am not blamming it on the unions soley it is most definatly the big wigs at some of the high tech companies were they can make it here for say $1.00 and make 10% profit or make it in china for .25 and make 300% profit even when they are non union. Bottom line we need to start outsourcing or we are all F'd!!!
turbobully
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Sorry that was supposed to be STOP outsourcing not start
Union workers
Its not just the Union people working on an assembly line, but what about the Skilled trades who work circles around the non union.They do it better and put pride in their work as well.That is something the japs and china men CAN NOT do.There is no pride or skill when you pay someone $3.00 dollars an hour.
Turbo Tom
Its not just the Union people working on an assembly line, but what about the Skilled trades who work circles around the non union.They do it better and put pride in their work as well.That is something the japs and china men CAN NOT do.There is no pride or skill when you pay someone $3.00 dollars an hour.
Turbo Tom
To Mr Union Organizer....what do you think about the PATCO union?? Good chance you don't know about it...but I do. I was a most reluctant member...only because the union "represented" you legally if something went wrong. Was constantly cajoled, threatened and intimidated into going on strike with my "brothers". "How do your kids get to school", "Do you have fire insurance?", and "Are your windows bulletproof" are the notes that my "brothers" dropped thru the louvers in my locker for me. That strike ended all of our careers. Great job Union!!
I returned to college and got a Mech Engineering degree. Worked 23 years at a large diesel engine design/manufacturing company. Where I observed the entire production of the 50 year plant in our companies home base city moved to NY because NY did a better job at lower cost. What was the difference?? Home city was union...NY was not. I worked in the home base plant, and visited the NY plant often. Clearly NY did a better job...they cared, and there were repercussions for shoddy work, and expectations from co-workers that you would do a good job. The NY plant's wages were lower but better than the prevailing wage in their area. At the union plant, in each team of 10, there were 1-2 good employees who always did a good job (because of their personal pride in my opinion), there were 1-2 who did absolutely a ****ty job of everything they did, their attitude was terrible, etc...you know who they are. And the other 5-6 people would eventually gravitate towards not doing a good job cause they saw the 2 losers getting by with no problems...so why should they continue to work hard...no repurcussions for bad job (union protection) so the product suffered. Rework was often required...Saturday overtime needed of course, etc etc. You know the routine.
I hated to see our plant shut down, but for the good of the customer it was the right thing to do...and why...because of the Union protecting the bad workers. I could write and write on this subject giving countless examples...but you know what I am talking about.
Bob
I returned to college and got a Mech Engineering degree. Worked 23 years at a large diesel engine design/manufacturing company. Where I observed the entire production of the 50 year plant in our companies home base city moved to NY because NY did a better job at lower cost. What was the difference?? Home city was union...NY was not. I worked in the home base plant, and visited the NY plant often. Clearly NY did a better job...they cared, and there were repercussions for shoddy work, and expectations from co-workers that you would do a good job. The NY plant's wages were lower but better than the prevailing wage in their area. At the union plant, in each team of 10, there were 1-2 good employees who always did a good job (because of their personal pride in my opinion), there were 1-2 who did absolutely a ****ty job of everything they did, their attitude was terrible, etc...you know who they are. And the other 5-6 people would eventually gravitate towards not doing a good job cause they saw the 2 losers getting by with no problems...so why should they continue to work hard...no repurcussions for bad job (union protection) so the product suffered. Rework was often required...Saturday overtime needed of course, etc etc. You know the routine.
I hated to see our plant shut down, but for the good of the customer it was the right thing to do...and why...because of the Union protecting the bad workers. I could write and write on this subject giving countless examples...but you know what I am talking about.
Bob
new thread started here:
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/political-views/280316-imports-suck.html#post2139011
thanks.
