**you Will Not Believe This Sh..!!! Blown Head Gasket While Pulling Out Of Shop!!!**

[Chuck Leeper]

"I am also curious as to what fuel system is on your car? They didn't list anything about that. That is the #1 cause of head gasket failure/knock."

+1..
I've been watching this drama unfold, since the first thread about the White Racing suggested mod list.
I've yet to see an answer as to how the fuel system is equipped..
Kinda like being pregnant.. you are, or you are not.
Either the fuel pump, wiring, etc is there, or it is not.
If it is NOT, then WTF is White thinking??

 

[hrhoward]

"I am also curious as to what fuel system is on your car? They didn't list anything about that. That is the #1 cause of head gasket failure/knock."

+1..
I've been watching this drama unfold, since the first thread about the White Racing suggested mod list.
I've yet to see an answer as to how the fuel system is equipped..
Kinda like being pregnant.. you are, or you are not.
Either the fuel pump, wiring, etc is there, or it is not.
If it is NOT, then WTF is White thinking??

Yep, you really need to address that one....

 

[LBNJWE4]

Join Dennis Kirban's inner circle, he is starting a list of reputable turbo Buick mechanics based on word of mouth by TR owners. Email him and ask if he has any in your area, baecause I don't know if he has a list of all of the ones posted in the past yet. good luck, and you can own one you live in america!

 

[GNRick]

FWIW, one week after I bought my well used (and abused) 87 GN, I wiped a cam lobe. Engine builder went throught it and charged me $3500 for rebuild. The next year I blew a head gasket at the track due to my second fuel pump (double pumper) not working due to a broken wire. He charged me $1300 to pull the engine and replace both headgaskets. I think these prices were fair. He used Cometic head gaskets, at my request. Now, after running several high 7's in the 1/8th, my mechanic tells me that one HG is leaking. After posting this problem and asking for advice, some folks suggested using those radiator tablets that stop leaks. If that doesn't work I will re-torque the head bolts and hope that will work (they are ARP bolts). However, I was also told that this might break the bead with the bolt sealer stuff and it will continue to leak. I may have to pull the head and start from scratch. Sorry for rambling....oh, my point is, uh, oh forget it. I just wanted to let you guys know what I paid for a repair.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

i understand some of you guys love for the wrench but
i ONLY do it because i CAN'T afford to pay for the work.
If i had the money, whats a 9/16 wrench and what does it do?
Yeahh you put 3 turbos on it and i'll pick it up on Friday.

 

[V8Assassin]

It Is Time!!!

I have been keeping up with this post for the last couple of days and it is time for me to offer up my $.02
One word my friend RELATIONSHIPS It's that simple!! Before I bought my 87 GN, wait a minute I bought three :biggrin: , an old friend of mine had been asking me to take some time to enjoy the fellowship of the church I grew up in (had not been in 14 years including the death of both of my parents). Now let me stop and say I am not preaching or trying to cram religion down anyone's throat, however in my community these things are respected. He just happened to be a TR owner and someone I shared a common interest with. After rebuilding and taking ownership of a new RELATIONSHIP in my life, I decided with his help to enter the world of turbo buicks. Through him I have met my now close friend and everyday mechanic who is helping me through a big upgrade, as well have learned an incredible amount of knowledge which helps me "twist my own wrenches".
Now, I speak of this because tom afternoon I will begin the largest car project of my life, taking the entire front and rear suspension out and cleaning the frame, undercarriage, and complete interior (thanks G-body), to get ready for bowling green.
I COULD NEVER EVEN IMAGINE STARTING A PROJECT LIKE THIS WITHOUT ONE THING ........RELATIONSHIPS.
As for the other two GN's, they were sold one for a minor profit and one for a minor loss. But hey, I learned alot doing it.

 

[turbofabricator]

i understand some of you guys love for the wrench but
i ONLY do it because i CAN'T afford to pay for the work.
If i had the money, whats a 9/16 wrench and what does it do?
Yeahh you put 3 turbos on it and i'll pick it up on Friday.

THREE turbos? Hmmmmmmm.......Now you got me thinkin'............ All it'll take is someone to tell me that their brother's, cousins', nephews, neighbor has one of those Tri-turbo GNX-FBI cars! And it's REAL fast! I'll just have to build one just to prove it can be done. Honey!, I'll be in the garage for ANOTHER year!:biggrin: Let's see.......two cylinders feed each turbo, multiply the square root of the compressor A/R and then add 3/5 of the turbine speed at target boost. If you then factor in the tube area entering the turbine scroll, and subtract the hypotnose of an isosceles triangle, it will get you "close". And of course I need to calculate the FM factor to determine the I/C area required. Then figure out the amperage needed to TIG it all together, and BINGO! IT'S A-L-I-V-E!! It'll have bolts in the neck, and be 9 feet tall, but no one will notice, because it doesn't say Chevy on it. Oh, by the way.......it won't be quiet ready by Friday.

FM= Effin' Magic Yep, the garage is my Prozac.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

THREE turbos? Hmmmmmmm.......Now you got me thinkin'............ All it'll take is someone to tell me that their brother's, cousins', nephews, neighbor has one of those Tri-turbo GNX-FBI cars! And it's REAL fast! I'll just have to build one just to prove it can be done. Honey!, I'll be in the garage for ANOTHER year!:biggrin: Let's see.......two cylinders feed each turbo, multiply the square root of the compressor A/R and then add 3/5 of the turbine speed at target boost. If you then factor in the tube area entering the turbine scroll, and subtract the hypotnose of an isosceles triangle, it will get you "close". And of course I need to calculate the FM factor to determine the I/C area required. Then figure out the amperage needed to TIG it all together, and BINGO! IT'S A-L-I-V-E!! It'll have bolts in the neck, and be 9 feet tall, but no one will notice, because it doesn't say Chevy on it. Oh, by the way.......it won't be quiet ready by Friday.

FM= Effin' Magic Yep, the garage is my Prozac.

you are the man
on the key board
and
behind the torch:biggrin:

 

[Nasty Wendy]

THREE turbos? Hmmmmmmm.......Now you got me thinkin'............ All it'll take is someone to tell me that their brother's, cousins', nephews, neighbor has one of those Tri-turbo GNX-FBI cars! And it's REAL fast! I'll just have to build one just to prove it can be done. Honey!, I'll be in the garage for ANOTHER year!:biggrin: Let's see.......two cylinders feed each turbo, multiply the square root of the compressor A/R and then add 3/5 of the turbine speed at target boost. If you then factor in the tube area entering the turbine scroll, and subtract the hypotnose of an isosceles triangle, it will get you "close". And of course I need to calculate the FM factor to determine the I/C area required. Then figure out the amperage needed to TIG it all together, and BINGO! IT'S A-L-I-V-E!! It'll have bolts in the neck, and be 9 feet tall, but no one will notice, because it doesn't say Chevy on it. Oh, by the way.......it won't be quiet ready by Friday.

FM= Effin' Magic Yep, the garage is my Prozac.

Get a slim dry sump oil pan, jack up the engine with custom mounts, fab up the headers to fit like Block Huggers and cylinders 1&2 can meet at flange underneath the front of the oilpan just behind the crossmember where Turbo1 will be mounted, cylinders 2&3 will do the same and Turbo2 will mount inline with Turbo1, Turbo3 will sammich between Turbo2 and the TC inspection cover. The downpipes from Turbo1&2 will exit in the stock exhaust locations and downpipe#3 will exit via a megaphone pipe out the middle of the back (funky VW style). The rest should be pretty easy.:biggrin:

Hey whatcha think about making the intake accomodate TRI-2 barrel carbs and making the turbos blow through?:tongue:

 

[Project TNX]

Turbo Regal Web Site is your friend

I feel for you, bigtime, but I think you need to read up on these cars for your own sake or else it's going to break down a lot. It could have been weak prior to them "fixing" it and just gave out on you with the extra oomph you added. Always remember, never add extra oomph, or stay in the oomph if your car's baseline is off. I hope a simple head gasket and maybe a valve job will do the trick for you.

 

[turbo39151]

ecarringt22: I guess everyone has had a chance to post and point out all of the issues. I have a few comments. The bill was excessive. If the work was not done properly it should be disputed and if it is not handled appropriately, Small Claims Court is your friend- as long as you bring proof that you are right and they are wrong.

That being said, working on a TR is not brain surgery. It's just a car. However, it is a car that gets pricey to maintain, especially if you can't or won't work on your own car. This forum is a great place to learn about the car and I promise you that any problem you have with the car has probably already been discussed before and had a solution rendered. Most of the "piddly" things are generally quick and easy to fix. If nothing else, you will at least have an idea of what things are supposed to cost and what it should take.

For example: When I bought my current GN, I had been out of the Buick scene for quite a while. I was told that I needed to swap the rear main seal and that it could be a real pain. I am not a mechanic so I was concerned about what it would take. I went to a local "reputable" shop and they quoted me that "book time" was at least 4 hours and would cost me nearly $1k! This sounded a bit pricey so I did some more research and discovered the part was about $10 and it took an hour or so to do it myself. My time is valuable but my money is hard earned and I'm loathe to simply give it away to any schmuck who wants to take advantage of me.

Just some thoughts... If you have questions, just ask...

 

[LBNJWE4]

ecarringt22: I guess everyone has had a chance to post and point out all of the issues. I have a few comments. The bill was excessive. If the work was not done properly it should be disputed and if it is not handled appropriately, Small Claims Court is your friend- as long as you bring proof that you are right and they are wrong.

That being said, working on a TR is not brain surgery. It's just a car. However, it is a car that gets pricey to maintain, especially if you can't or won't work on your own car. This forum is a great place to learn about the car and I promise you that any problem you have with the car has probably already been discussed before and had a solution rendered. Most of the "piddly" things are generally quick and easy to fix. If nothing else, you will at least have an idea of what things are supposed to cost and what it should take.

For example: When I bought my current GN, I had been out of the Buick scene for quite a while. I was told that I needed to swap the rear main seal and that it could be a real pain. I am not a mechanic so I was concerned about what it would take. I went to a local "reputable" shop and they quoted me that "book time" was at least 4 hours and would cost me nearly $1k! This sounded a bit pricey so I did some more research and discovered the part was about $10 and it took an hour or so to do it myself. My time is valuable but my money is hard earned and I'm loathe to simply give it away to any schmuck who wants to take advantage of me.

Just some thoughts... If you have questions, just ask...

I agree totally, I just had my rear main seal done for $150 by a professional who I met in the GN club I belong to. Find someone you can trust that knows these cars AND has a passion for them!

 

[TurboDave]

I agree totally, I just had my rear main seal done for $150 by a professional who I met in the GN club I belong to. Find someone you can trust that knows these cars AND has a passion for them!

You got away cheap. I wouldn't have done it for that. But that's just me.

 

[turbine power]

this is a sick turbo buick car !

anyone see this car in person ? this thing is evil as hell looking !

 

[turbofabricator]

Nice work on the Mitsu.

 

[smoke20]

if you want to bring your car to wisc. i will do your head gaskets for free. whle you wait if the heads check out. i have gaskets in stock and in take gasets in stock. these cars are very easy to work on.

jim

 

[NASSTY]

anyone see this car in person ? this thing is evil as hell looking !

 

[stack1]

"I am also curious as to what fuel system is on your car? They didn't list anything about that. That is the #1 cause of head gasket failure/knock."

+1..
I've been watching this drama unfold, since the first thread about the White Racing suggested mod list.
I've yet to see an answer as to how the fuel system is equipped..
Kinda like being pregnant.. you are, or you are not.
Either the fuel pump, wiring, etc is there, or it is not.
If it is NOT, then WTF is White thinking??

There should be no more replies to this thread until we get an answer to this question...

 

[jdpolzin]

if you want to bring your car to wisc. i will do your head gaskets for free. whle you wait if the heads check out. i have gaskets in stock and in take gasets in stock. these cars are very easy to work on.

jim

Now thats one hell of an offer!! How far are you from Iowa??:biggrin:

 

[smoke20]

I am 30 min northof milwaukee