I am not sure what custom fabricators charge where you live but around here that's not going to happen, a 1.5" J bend is $59.99 alone http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1022_1065_1115 so while I get your point but lets be realistic about what things cost if you cant do them yourself. I still don't get the reason what this is such a big deal that it get plumbed back in, can someone explain that please?It cost less than 100.00 to plumb a wastegate in to the dp. If a hundred bucks is stopping someone from racing...we are in the wrong game
The rules favor existing builds let's face it, they were made by the guys who already have built cars,
while precision has stepped up they are not making anything new housing wise for us all the devolpment is in vband and new stuff, that is where the market is. You guys have a turbo rule for a turbo no one can buy new, clearly some thing should be done.
I disagree. I think the real TSM cars were built to the rules, not the other way around. We ran into this in TSO. If you keep changing the rules, it can actually hurt car count. I could be mistaken, but I believe the class with the most expensive cars to build also has the largest car count. With some stability, you know the rules and build your car accordingly, not build your car and change the rules to fit it. The proposed rule changes would open things up, but what currently built cars are you gaining by allowing turbos mounted anyplace with dumps out the fender? If none, then tell the new guys to build the car to the rules, instead of making the current dedicated group have to update their combinations.
I think you are mistaken. Doesn't the turbo rule allow the new 68 & 72 turbos? Both of which, are readily available.
the exhaust housing should be looked at. A 4 bolt would allow the new 69MM SXE borg warner which will make the power of the precision 6870 for $899. You guys need options other than precision but the rules now exclude everyone else. The wastegate rule is another, who cares where the gate dumps? as long as it is safe. Make it easier for some new people to play and get in the class. $2500 turbos and custom fabrication puts most guys out. But a 109 block with stage 2 iron heads looks OK though.
Times change, now you have a few guys with a 71 turbo that a new player can't even buy, Richie said he went faster with the 71. If you guys want the class to continue your going to have to open it up so new people can play, otherwise it dies. As one of the main sponsors over the years I can say I have made a large commitment, we do this to support Buick racing but at the end of the day we still need to justify the investment and see some return. We need more participation to do that. I know everyone is looking for some edge oedoes not want to change since they have a good combo, I am sure over time you will have fun racing yourself when no one shows and the sponsors disappear. This was an exciting year at the nats, I think we could see big things with a few changes