Pump gas/Alky Mellissa bumps it up!! 9.94!!!!

[TURBO 6]

Sam, the answer you're looking for was given over and over again. No knock!

 

[Grumpy]

Sam, the answer you're looking for was given over and over again. No knock!

and with the "tools" I posted you can achieve that with NO KNOCK driving the car to the drags today to see what it weighs .. then getting set to get them plugs changed

 

[TurboDave]

Sam, the answer you're looking for was given over and over again. No knock!

True, very true, however, if my calculations are assumed correcty it takes somewhere north of 750hp to run the numbers that Melissa knocked down. Correct?
How are the motor's internals kept, well, internal? Steel crank, steel caps, girdle, a combination of them or all of them?

See, no tune secret questions.

 

[EightSecV6]

Congratulations on an awesome performance with this combination! You are definately "tuning" it the right way!

 

[TurboBuRick]

See, no tune secret questions.

Good one Dave, I bet at least two or three mains and a steel crank.
I think the real question is the rods.

 

[Grumpy]

True, very true, however, if my calculations are assumed correcty it takes somewhere north of 750hp to run the numbers that Melissa knocked down. Correct?
How are the motor's internals kept, well, internal? Steel crank, steel caps, girdle, a combination of them or all of them?

See, no tune secret questions.

Dave I am goin to do a car "combo" ...never mind I just did it ..Ill also start another thread on it

Engine
girdled short block with .020 pistons
stock crank cut 20/20
stock rods
SFI balancer and flexplate from Mike@Full Throttle
212/212 Comp roller cam
Champion STEEL ported heads
Cometic Headgaskets (NO they don't leak )
Champion ported stock intake
RJC power plate
stock plenum
stock TB bored to 62mm
stock crappy factory headers and crossover
3" down pipe to a dual 3" exhaust (we run threw the exhaust)
Dequick V4 stock location intercooler
67 DBB Precision Turbo
RJC boost valve
60# inj
single pump in tank / hot wire
ALKY DUAL NOZZLE set up from Julio
200R4
Russ Merrit trans with Bruce's billet "stuff" .. PTS 9/11 converter from Bruce @ PTS . Bruce sent it to me because I am such a nice guy . this converter ROCKS !!!! Worked awesome !! Thanks Bruce and Russ
stock rear end w c/clip eliminators (remember we are only running drag radials) Moser axles and a TA rear cover.
UMI stock replacement rear control arms
ATR rear sway bar
Koni rear shocks
reg old front tires
MT drag radials
A GREAT DRIVER :biggrin:
Russ Merritt & Me ....GREAT SLAVES

I think thats about it...oh wait .. a Boost and oil pressure guage.. Tack.. and of coarse a SCANMASTER

 

[Grumpy]

Congratulations on an awesome performance with this combination! You are definately "tuning" it the right way!

thanks Bill... you know what time it takes "playing" with these things .. maybe she should race Avon and see if his draft can pull her even faster

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

i just put that complete list on my "wish list"
See you at the nine as soon as the brown truck gets home.:biggrin: JK
thanks
BTW
love reading about this car. AWSOME
David

 

[Grumpy]

oh ..goin to weigh the car today ..
87 GN , PW,PL,PS,PA,AC. weight savings .. replaced the steel bumper supports with alum ones from one of my "T"s .. Weld wheels. Oh have a cage in it to so that will add a little .. ok so here is all the secrets hmmmm forgot to add Russ Merritt plug wires and he also did the motor work. I just can't be bothered .. I don't have the time

 

[SGRIM]

I think guys try to "over tune" their cars. That is what I like about Jays chips, they don't give you all the options to change change change. It is all about the combo, not throwing all the "best" parts at it!

 

[TurboDave]

oh ..goin to weigh the car today ..
87 GN , PW,PL,PS,PA,AC. weight savings .. replaced the steel bumper supports with alum ones from one of my "T"s .. Weld wheels. Oh have a cage in it to so that will add a little .. ok so here is all the secrets hmmmm forgot to add Russ Merritt plug wires and he also did the motor work. I just can't be bothered .. I don't have the time

Just goes to show how amazing such times and power really are!!

Shows that most of the power must be the heads and cam combo, cuz to be honest, there's not a lot of "big" stuff in the combo. Like the "ordinary" throttle body, dog house, etc. Non huge injectors.

I still don't think I understand how 60# injectors could be forced to flow enough to make that kind of power. The laws of physics were being pushed on that, me thinks.

Man!! that poor motor must have been screaming help me, help me, help me!!

If I read right, the only things holding it all together were the girdle, and SFI balancer and flex plate.

Phew, a 9 second run on mostly stock parts and not blowing it all up, somebody's got a guardian angle looking out above!! :wink:

 

[Mike Licht]

Dave, I am not so sure. I had over 200 10:50-10:70 passes on a 72,000 mile junkyard shortblock with no girdle, caps, rebuild or anything. This was likely a 10.20 combo with a mild tune that never had any knock. The injectors are made about 15-20% bigger by the alky so they would be OK. I am not sure how it is getting done a single intank pump but I suspect the alky is taking over there too
Mike

 

[TurboDave]

Dave, I am not so sure. I had over 200 10:50-10:70 passes on a 72,000 mile junkyard shortblock with no girdle, caps, rebuild or anything. This was likely a 10.20 combo with a mild tune that never had any knock. The injectors are made about 15-20% bigger by the alky so they would be OK. I am not sure how it is getting done a single intank pump but I suspect the alky is taking over there too
Mike

Wow, that brings up a whole 'nother thread concerning alky and whether or not it's actually a "fuel" or not, or just a "charge cooler", etc.
If it is a fuel (which I suspect it is not), that would explain the 60# injectors making the power.
But if it's not a fuel, then it's still amazing that even at something under 30# of boost, how those injectors could flow enough to make well in excess of 750hp.
A lot of amazing things had to have come together!!

 

[Mike Licht]

If you have your MAFT pro with wideband going and an alky kit all you need to do is watch the correction factor. On fullthrottletech.com Bob posted a log of his car where the injector duty cycle drops 20% when the alky kicks on and the A/F ratio never changes. That should tell you it acts as a fuel not just a cooler.
Mike

 

[Dusty Bradford]

Alky is most definately a fuel....a very good one. That's how you run 9's with a single 340 and 60#ers

I believe everything he has posted. Last year we beat on a stock crank, stock rod, TRW piston motor with a girdle all year. The owner just sold the short block and the bearings looked brand new on inspection for the new owner. It ran 9.70's all day at 138. It's in the tune and first 60'.

 

[Grumpy]

Man!! that poor motor must have been screaming help me, help me, help me!!:wink:

wait till it goes back in the Mazda then YES it is goin to scream

 

[Grumpy]

never had any knock. Mike

if everyone keeps telling people this it may sink in

 

[BEATAV8]

Well guys this whole thing certainly shows that the Buicks are still the ones that set the performance bar. The 9 sec 109 car will become more frequent, just like the 10 sec 109 car did.

Cobra's and Supra's beware that old black GN.

 

[Grumpy]

Alky is most definately a fuel....a very good one. That's how you run 9's with a single 340 and 60#ers

I believe everything he has posted. Last year we beat on a stock crank, stock rod, TRW piston motor with a girdle all year. The owner just sold the short block and the bearings looked brand new on inspection for the new owner. It ran 9.70's all day at 138. It's in the tune and first 60'.

Alky had better be a fuel !! we have to get our 60's down.. working on it .. another thing is that the car is driven almost everyday .. only put prob 5/6k on it this year :redface: Dusty hearing great "review's" with your converters

 

[TurboBuRick]

Pour some on the ground and throw a match on it.