What is the biggest and baddest stock location IC now that CAS and MPE are out?

[TRBON8R]

I was hoping to learn something from this thread since I've got one of the above mentioned stock location ICs. I did learn something. I wasted the last 5 minutes of my life reading this garbage. How about we continue with some tech info and dispense with the prick waving? In my opinion all of the above BS that doesn't directly relate to the tech issue at hand should be deleted. That isn't my call though so I'll crawl back under my rock. Have a nice night!

 

[Intercooler]

Well I did get a couple offers to trade my FM for a V4R out of the thread and....Thunder Fabrications is the only other supplier of stock locations unless you can find the Mease unit at a vendor.

 

[Nick Micale]

Originally posted by TRBON8R
I was hoping to learn something from this thread since I've got one of the above mentioned stock location ICs. I did learn something. I wasted the last 5 minutes of my life reading this garbage. How about we continue with some tech info and dispense with the prick waving? In my opinion all of the above BS that doesn't directly relate to the tech issue at hand should be deleted. That isn't my call though so I'll crawl back under my rock. Have a nice night!

I agree with you Ben, glad you stated it from a member's point of view. I did make a comment that posts not relevant would be deleted. I also have had numerous complaints from other members saying essentially the same thing about this thread, and a couple others.

Think you are right, it will be simpler to delete the unwarranted posts than have them debated. So do not be alarmed if some threads get "edited" in the future!

 

[TRBON8R]

Thanks Nick.

BTW, I'm chomping at the bit to see one of the new TA motors installed and running at the track. I feel like a junkie waiting for a fix.....lol. When you get a chance give us an update.

 

[wiked87gn]

I was seriously considering a mease 24 row stock location intercooler for a while but after hearing all the complains I decided to call thunderfabs and get my IC from them. 4 more rows in an intercooler wont make that much off a difference in my opinion, but to shove out almost $400.00 that's $100.00 per row , i will spend my money somewhere else.

 

[BlownZ]

Re: Grim

Originally posted by Mease Performance
Email Mr. Two lane I'm sure he'd snatch some of that right up....oh wait he doesnt have an Email address.....well PM him, oh wait he doesnt have one of those either....well find out his name....sh*t only a scarce few know that on here, guess getting his address would be about as hard as sending us an Email I just want to know how you can post all of this helpful information and not have ANY contact stats what gives are you here to simply to piss people off and slam the door? Honestly now I've spoken to some of the most renowned moderators and vendors on this site regarding you.....they think the same exact thoughts I do when this subject and your username is brought up! Why not simply PROVIDE SOME USEABLE INFORMATION and not 10,000 posts worth of wasted server space? Why not HELP TO FIND updates on new products and not BLATANTLY STATE " what is going on with this" or " there has been no update in 4 months...guess this product is no good" why not let others voice their opinions and hear them out??? Maybe you need some ars creme for your head too.....loosen up dude!!!!! we're taking care of things just as fast as we can, dont make OUR SITUATION WORSE and egg on the problems that arise here because there will be NO MORE this is it and you're going to have to deal with us being at your side on this site for the remainder of time. We do not make enemies, apparently you have....If it was a customer of ours (which you have NEVER BEEN) posting here WE UNDERSTAND THEIR SITUATION and UNDERSTAND THEIR POSTS, yours noone does...

make friends not enemies, I know who you are, and obviously you know who I am (or think you do) dont think you're protected by an invincible barrier behind that precious keyboard of yours...and continue this bulllSH*T.

Remember....MAKE PEACE NOT WAR

Finally, Jess, sorry for tainting your post, If you'd like us to delete ours simply send me a PM and I will delete it so you can continue.

This must be tech related seeing as it is still here in its unedited form. A duck is a duck....looks like we have a lot of them.

And so I can stay tech related and on topic....I have the Thunder Fab unit. Nice piece, well built, received it in 2 days, it installed in a couple of hours easily, no swaybar removal etc. I would strongly recommend Thunder to anyone that is looking for a stock location type IC.

 

[Mease Performance]

ben:

what did you want to know about our 15 row units?

 

[fast eddie]

are the 24row units in stock at any of the vendors?

 

[Mease Performance]

24 row intercooler

answer to eddie's question....the vendors CANT KEEP THEM IN STOCK!!!! call up any of the vendors and get your info placed on the backorder list which we are filling now. With the GMHTP test coming out soon get on THAT LIST before all hell breaks loose here.

Good Luck any questions just ask!

 

[TRBON8R]

Re: ben:

Originally posted by Mease Performance
what did you want to know about our 15 row units?

Keith,

What I've been looking for is some comparison data between your 15 row, the CAS V4, Thunder Fab, and any other stock location ICs out there. Has anyone ever done any back to back testing with any of the above mentioned coolers? Everyone seems to rave about the Thunder Fab unit, but I haven't seen much in terms of before and after performance data. I see you now offer an all new IC with a new core. Are there any performance gains to be had with some of the newer core designs versus using a stretched stock core?

So far I've been happy with your 15 row. It works awesome. I wish I hadn't dinged up the shroud heading into a driveway though.......

 

[Mease Performance]

ben

Yes we have tested the 15 row unit versus the V4 and versus a stock intercooler, you can expect to pick up almost a tenth more on a low 12 second buick with our 15 row versus a V4 unit, versus a stock intercooler, our 15 row unit will gain you almost 1/4 second witht proper fueling and modifications (again this was with us testing on race gas/ vs/ race gas when we swapped the coolers, so the gains on pump gas would be in the 3-4 tenth range. The 15 row unit we build has been a relatively unchanged design for the past 15 years...we have changed the neck casting which flows better than a std dutt neck and any others on the market. It is a great buy for the money, but you've gotta give up your stock intercooler as a core!

The new unit simply BLOWS ANYTHING on the market for the stock location outta the water...Thanks to Rick Jensen, editor of GMHTP Magazine we have PROVEN DYNO results and thermal efficiency calculations that are dayum near that of a similar front mount unit, plus you do not have 6 bends going to the intercooler (front mount) you only have 3 bends with our unit...We have calculated that on a high 10 second buick, in 3" mandrel bent tubing, per each bend you LOSE 1 POUND OF BOOST for every bend going to the intercooler and back to the throttle body at high RPM powerband. Many here will argue with us about this subject, over and over again, but we have the test results and you can come here anyday of the week and we'll stick a 3" aluminum 90 bend on the flowbench!!! You will argue with me because you say that:" well....I picked up 4 PSI at the motor with my front mount.......that is BECAUSE THE CORE IS MORE EFFICIENT and can move more air/per time as compared to whatever you had on it before, has almost nothing to do with the bends it is a DIFFERENT part of the intercooler...

Front mounts are cool, they work, and I would say anything faster than 9.20s you would benefit from a LARGE front mount such as the cottons unit...

Hope this solves some wonder and any more just ask, BTW the V4 was tested versus our intercooler(15 row) and versus a stock intercooler by Daryl Riegel of the now latent TurboBuick Newsletter at Cecil County Dragway in MD, in the presence of Jack cotton, eric schertz, myself and many others....its a proven "old school" mod!!!

 

[Mease Performance]

ben

ben, you need a new shroud lower or upper>? send me an Email we have a bunch of lowers lying around still, just let me know what color, send me $5 for shippin and we'll send you another replacement

thanks!

 

[Turbo T/A 1543]

Keith, since we are both here at the same time, are you near your backorder sheet? Curious to see if you still have me on your list. Thanks, John Rossington, Ohio Auto Parts That was for the INTTR1.

 

[Mease Performance]

John

Yes john I tried calling you at ohio auto parts quite a few times to verify the order, were you in on the $799 deal or not?

Please shoot me an Email

BTW everyone GMHTP IS OUT pick up your issue anywhere!

thanks!!!!!

 

[Turbo T/A 1543]

Keith, I e-mailed you. Thanks

 

[TRBON8R]

Thaks Keith. That was the info I was after.

On the shroud, I need a lower in the standard black powdercoat color. Let me know how much for the shroud and I can send off payment.

By the way, with the stock core ICs is there a recommended time interval where the IC should be removed and pressure tested for leaks? Thanks again.

 

[Mease Performance]

On the shroud, I need a lower in the standard black powdercoat color. Let me know how much for the shroud and I can send off payment.

just send me your addy again and I'll send one out was it satin or gloss? the new ones are ONE PIECE not 3!

By the way, with the stock core ICs is there a recommended time interval where the IC should be removed and pressure tested for leaks? Thanks again.

No difference between a new core and an old core, trust us on this (believe me ya dont have to ) there is no such damn thing as an intercooler wearing out! Corrosion will wear it out, just make sure that the paint is in good shape on it and there are no nicks where water could get under the paint. When the units leave here they are resealed, pressure tested, etc and just about good as new....any cores that are really shyiotty get scrapped (yeah and we've still gotta pay for em lol) good luck, and BTW I found that second money order reciept (remember the core refund on your big-neck???) and we paid you $200 for that stock intercooler. (2-$100 money orders) Did you recieve both money orders? I can take a digital pic of both reciepts side by side if you'd like?

thanks!

 

[TRBON8R]

Originally posted by Mease Performance
just send me your addy again and I'll send one out was it satin or gloss? the new ones are ONE PIECE not 3!





No difference between a new core and an old core, trust us on this (believe me ya dont have to ) there is no such damn thing as an intercooler wearing out! Corrosion will wear it out, just make sure that the paint is in good shape on it and there are no nicks where water could get under the paint. When the units leave here they are resealed, pressure tested, etc and just about good as new....any cores that are really shyiotty get scrapped (yeah and we've still gotta pay for em lol) good luck, and BTW I found that second money order reciept (remember the core refund on your big-neck???) and we paid you $200 for that stock intercooler. (2-$100 money orders) Did you recieve both money orders? I can take a digital pic of both reciepts side by side if you'd like?

thanks!

Whoa........ I remember we had the go around about the core charge a while back. I got what I assume was the second money order but never the first. If you still have a money order out there floating around you should for sure find out about getting a refund on it because I sure never cashed it! Dang that was like a year and a half ago!!! I wish you would have told me about this sooner. I would have tried to help you work with the money order company to try and figure out what happened to the first money order. Are you sure both money orders were actually shipped my way because I only got one?

Thanks again for the help with the shroud. I'll email you with my new address.

 

[artrenee10]

Just to go slightly off topic.....for a sec

Exactly which vendors do carrry Mease I/C's??Im interested in gettin a big neck. If this question does not (and Im sure it doesn't Ill be more than happy to post in another area.)

Thanks
Steve Chambers

 

[86brick]

Re: Just to go slightly off topic.....for a sec

Originally posted by artrenee10
Exactly which vendors do carrry Mease I/C's??Im interested in gettin a big neck. If this question does not (and Im sure it doesn't Ill be more than happy to post in another area.)

Thanks
Steve Chambers

Jack Cotton.....
www.cottonsperformance.com

Nick Micale......
www.arizonagn.com

Eric Schertz.....
www.dynotechperformance.com

These are three vendors with known good customer service that carry his products........

HTH