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ps... I agree, I did have matching ttype wheels back then. The fronts were narrowed and the rears were widened, the car looked pretty stock back then and ran low 9's. Not bad, used BFG DR's and ran 9.50's.... I liked the slicks better, they were more consistent. On that subject.... maybe that is the keyword, consistent... When you speak about the big boyz on DR's, there's more to it than just slapping some DR's on a mustang and running down the track.... lot's of $ in the suspension and combo, lots of time in T$T, and lots of passes where ya just don't get down the track. I personally don't care if we use DR's or slicks, I know I can hook em up and I have a pretty good idea what needs to be done to hook em up.. I still feel better with slicks, at the level I plan to run, I really don't feel like doing the Otto shuffle down the track.. but then if you haven't gone for "the site seeing run" down the track, one would not understand.
Ok, I'm on my second cup of coffee, this is gonna be long, maybe I should just stick a needle in my arm and injest the coffee intravenously... It seems the turbo is the sticking subject, I have been there before in rules discussion for the TSE class before it was renamed TSO. I believed a 76 turbo was the largest turbo anyone should use on a stage 2 street car, others wanted to run 88's... I also believed a 2004r was the only trans that should be used on a street car... with no trans brake, others did not agree with me. I also believed AC should be used on a street car others did not. MY point, I lost, but I was passionate about the rules and at times the discussions got ugly. I didn't change my car, I didn't run the class... who lost? I can look back now and say.... I was the one that lost. I wanted to race, but stuck by my beliefs, the class went on without me. To sum it up, if I had it to do again, from the beginning, I would have run the class, I would have been competitive and could have won some of those races. My fears of not being competitive just did not happen. Today , is a different story, I have been running TSO, I have been competitive and I have even won some races and runnered up in several, not bad.... for having less than the rest. Unfortunately, the last few races, guys have gotten it together and next year in TSO, I will have to make some changes and turn up the wick if I want to be competitive. You ask what does this have to do with TAI.... alot! My point is, for those that don't think they will be competitive, give it a chance, no matter what the limits are, the chances of being competitive are excellent, no matter what the guy next to you has for a combo. I think if you look back here to one of my first posts, I wanted to see no larger than a 70P turbo, figuring that would be competitive with the 67 and 66 turbos... I lobbied for that, but had to settle on the 76. A 76 is not what I want to see, but it's not my call... I'll still race the class no matter what... why... because I want to race.. period. If you guys really want to race this class, race it!!! Bring your best to the class, you will be surprised with the outcome. If a 67 was the largest turbo, can you run 9.90.... thats the bar that has been set by John C and Grumpy.... The fastest I have heard anyone else going on alchy was around 9.50, but I think that was with race gas and alchy.. and a 70GTQ.. can it be done with pump gas? I don't know, maybe... maybe not.... I'm not worried about it and I'm not running a 76 if that is the limit... just like TSO in the past, I believe a smaller turbo is still the ticket. I'm not building a monster motor either... stock stroke motors have run 9.40 and I just don't have the money... or see the need for anything bigger..
As for the rest of the car, I don't care, there are lots of street cars with and without AC, everyone has their own idea of what a street car is. The bottom line, we need cars, with or withour AC... My son is building a car to drive on the street, he removed the AC for his own reasons... he narrowed the frame rails for a bigger tire, he's putting a roll cage in for safety and again for safety, he wants to put in race seats... does that mean it's not a street car? Maybe not to some, but from the standpoint of being his father, I want all the protection for him I can get. At the performance level we build our street cars to today, these are all areas that need to be addressed... I've seen the results of a bad situation... it ain't pretty. Your 10 second car was not designed from the factory to run like it does now.
Ok, I'm done... have to get to work, please understand I am only trying to share my experiences racing in Buick classes..... not trying to knock anyone around, just hope that some can understand where I am coming from.. There was one more thing and I forgot it already... maybe I'll remember later and add it in.. gotta run.. Happy Holidays..
