My T vs 01 z28 with 150shot of n2o

[bison]

I know about the underdogs. There was a beat up stripped out Mitsu at LVD last night that had 4 dry rotted radials on it and it went 11.20's@134mph . Seeing that car on the street would give absolutely no clue to that performance level. The owner said it was 2600 lbs. His 60' were 1.70's. Id bet he smacked a lot of cars on the street if he could even get them to take him seriously.

 

[Double-L]

I know what you mean when I run the grand national at the Super Chevy we had to drive it to the track in the morning and back home at night for three days most of it on the interstate, When you are driving a turbo Buick and a Vette or hotrod gets beside you they just slow down and look the other way, When I drive my SSR they all want to race, Like a street racer once said I hate them dam Grand Nationals you never know if it's a 13 sec. car or a 9 sec. car they all look and sound the same

 

[BMF_Racing]

If your car is only got the mods listed, plus alcky, I would be extra careful... I've seen those cars pull off low 12's with N02 and slicks!

my Olds went 12.8's on motor and 11.2 122mph on a 150psi and et streets.
good luck.

 

[Blazer406]

my Olds went 12.8's on motor and 11.2 122mph on a 150psi and et streets.
good luck.

Dad gum... .you got 150 psi boost? :biggrin:

Must take several intercoolers in series to cool off that air.... :biggrin:

 

[BMF_Racing]

Dad gum... .you got 150 psi boost? :biggrin:

Must take several intercoolers in series to cool off that air.... :biggrin:

whoops , edit 150hp shot of N2o , so used to typing psi anymore, well at least on this forum, lol.

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

With the mods he has listed??? Not only NO, but ****NO. Let's try and be realistic here.

Please explain. ANYTHING less & the tune is off or the car is not hooking.

 

[TurboDave]

Please explain. ANYTHING less & the tune is off or the car is not hooking.

Sure, you said

"I would have NO problem running that race straight up. The buick should be a solid 12.00 to 12.20 car at 21-22 psi on drag radials."

And I stated that with the mods he has listed in his sig, that is in no way shape or form a 12.0 car.

Here's what he's got (advertised). "1987 Turbo T ET 13.53 @ 99.05 mph(STOCK w/cai)
CAI, Magnaflow catback, TT chip, RJC power plate, Scanmaster 2.1, M/T street and Alky kit coming this week"

How's he going to lop a a second and a half with just alky, and running the 21-22# of boost you stated??????

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

Sure, you said

"I would have NO problem running that race straight up. The buick should be a solid 12.00 to 12.20 car at 21-22 psi on drag radials."

And I stated that with the mods he has listed in his sig, that is in no way shape or form a 12.0 car.

Here's what he's got (advertised). "1987 Turbo T ET 13.53 @ 99.05 mph(STOCK w/cai)
CAI, Magnaflow catback, TT chip, RJC power plate, Scanmaster 2.1, M/T street and Alky kit coming this week"

How's he going to lop a a second and a half with just alky, and running the 21-22# of boost you stated??????

Your right, it's not possible to run 12:20's with a stock turbo & parts.

He has a good running stock car that has not been cluttered up with a bad combination of aftermarket parts yet. Add traction, 6 psi, lock the converter & tune the car. The times will follow.

 

[Mr.Spool]

man i love a good street race and this is why things are unpredictable.the more power you make the harder it is to race on the street.if that t is tuned good and he knows how to leave without shocking the tires with the stock turbo that's a race!an ls1 with a 150shot will spin the tire through 1st 2nd and even third a little on a cool night,wouldn't be the first 11 second car loosing to a 12second car on the street.i like the thread of that ls1 car going 11.60 but he's not going to 60ft 1.6 and leave like that on the street.i think people get to caught up on 1/4 mile numbers not realizing 1second goes by quick and if your spinning real quick.

 

[Savageite]

All I can say is good luck. I had an Ls1 with a stick and before I put the cam in it I went 12.18 @ 114mph. with bolt-ons and QTP's. Does he have a rear in it?

 

[BMF_Racing]

an ls1 with a 150shot will spin the tire through 1st 2nd and even third a little on a cool night,wouldn't be the first 11 second car loosing to a 12second car on the street.QUOTE]

with et streets and a good burn out, the ls1 will hook pretty good on motor in 1st and in 2nd on the 150hp. I say even with a good launch for the "T" and an ok launch for the ls1, the race will still be over when the ls1 hits third, that is assuming the guy in the ls1 can drive. (a ls1 with his mods and 150hp will trap 113 to 115 mph easily if not more mph than that.) :biggrin: Good luck man, let us know how it goes, I hope I'm wrong.

just my $0.02,

Brad

 

[Dreamcar86]

Dad gum... .you got 150 psi boost? :biggrin:

Must take several intercoolers in series to cool off that air.... :biggrin:

That is where you use an air to water intercooler replacing the water with liquid nitrogen.:biggrin:

 

[Underboost]

That is where you use an air to water intercooler replacing the water with liquid nitrogen.:biggrin:

Has anyone ever done that?
I was thinking about doing it but for every degree change in the nitrogen you would see a 10psi fluctuation in psi. That's not boost that's in the tank holding the Nitrogen. You would have to have a series of in tank psi relief valves.

 

[BMF_Racing]

That is where you use an air to water intercooler replacing the water with

if it was a diesel it would be np, wouldnt need the liquid nitrogen then :biggrin:

 

[8TurboT7]

Here's what he's got (advertised). "1987 Turbo T ET 13.53 @ 99.05 mph(STOCK w/cai)
CAI, Magnaflow catback, TT chip, RJC power plate, Scanmaster 2.1, M/T street and Alky kit coming this week"

How's he going to lop a a second and a half with just alky, and running the 21-22# of boost you stated??????

Yes my car did get a 13.53 on 16psi and coldair and plain street tire. The rest of the thing list where add on the week after I went to the track. I'll be racing the z28 tonight with no Alky and he hasnt got his bottle yet. It will be a street race and hopfully there will be video. Can some tell me the difference for a GNX turbo to a stock GN?

 

[GregInAtl]

My buddys 00 SS w/ 150 shot and slicks (lid, exhaust and a little weight removed)went 10.9** a dozen times, the truth is you are gonna get walked. Not a popular opinion probably, but its the truth. Your only hope is he has a manual tranny and cant drive well. If its an auto you are done, LS1 is too strong w/o nitrous to think on N20 you have a chance. An LS1 auto camaro will go 12s w/o a great driver.
Sorry, and good luck.

 

[BMF_Racing]

My buddys 00 SS w/ 150 shot and slicks (lid, exhaust and a little weight removed)went 10.9** a dozen times, the truth is you are gonna get walked. Not a popular opinion probably, but its the truth. Your only hope is he has a manual tranny and cant drive well. If its an auto you are done, LS1 is too strong w/o nitrous to think on N20 you have a chance. An LS1 auto camaro will go 12s w/o a great driver.
Sorry, and good luck.

bone stock ls1 will run 105mph trap speed with auto and street tires, so et streets and basic bolt-ons it should go 106 or 107 mph, maybe 1 to 2 more mph if its a manual trans (assuming driver mod)

Good luck.

 

[tb3]

Holy cow!!! I can't stand it. Theres so many post and info in this thread that now I can't wait to see who wins tonight. :biggrin:

How cool is that that there are guys offering to swap out their tb's if they where within a decent driving distance. I wish there was a bad --s burgundy t type around where I live so I could see if they could lay the smack to a local jack--s that I've just started seeing on the highway once in awhile. theres some guy in a what looks like a brand new mercedes thats pulled up beside me a hand full of times and for no apperant reason will roll down his tinted window give me the finger then blow me a kiss and wave bye-bye then hammer it, and yes, it seems to be very very fast (at 60 mph he nails it and that thing is GONE!). I wouldn't even come close to taking him with no more mods than I've got, but I wouldn't want to race him anyway with his apperant mentality. If I ever see this guy stopped somewhere, I'll definetly stop and ask him what his problem is. somehow I don't think he'll be so cocky then.
sorry just had to vent.

 

[Nojug]

Yea I would probably say he will get you, my buddies wife has a 02 SS yes I said wife and she runs 12.50's all day and has been a 12.40 something with just a converter a set of Kooks headers and Et Streets, not even a tune so that car with a 150 shot would run atleast 11.40's with a girl driving.

 

[Daniel Jost]

Ok this is killing me, here is my opinion on the topic.... Everyone here is saying oh my buddies,uncles,cousins,friends,aunts car ran this with so and so mods and nitrous. The fact is nitrous is a very effective power adder and LS engines are very powerful engines, just because your friends car went high tens on slicks doesn't mean that is would do it on drag radials on the street, or even close to it. What I'm saying is, the fast get slower and the mild cars don't usually lose much at all. We all know how it goes just because a turbo Buick owner ran 11.60 on this turbo and this tire, with alky and bolt-ons doesn't mean that Joe Blows turbo Buick is going to even break high twelves if he doesn't know what he is doing with it, or doesn't have the right suspension setup. I seen it were i used to live a Turbo Buick driver bought a high 10 second TB and it only ran 11.97 for him no difference in setup.....Hmmmmm!

I'm not saying that the Turbo Buick will win or even that it will have a chance, but rather that time with very fine tuning, and some suspensions mods, and lots of practicing, will make him much more efficient, on an non-prepped street.
While at the same time if the guy is inexperienced with the way his vehicle reacts and the fact that it will not hook worth SH!T on the street if it doesn't have some good suspension, and if it does hook with a stock rear end on spray i think the differential will be left in pieces in the housing! What i'm saying is that the street is the great equalizer between fast and slower cars! I would also like to state that i don't condone street racing, in any way shape or form, be safe i don't like to see the turbo buicks getting any more rare than they already are:wink: , Good Luck!!!!
,Dan