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This is a video of me when I ran 11.30's against an LS1 with Nitrous & DR's in the 1/8 mile.
My T vs 01 z28 with 150shot of n2o
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Robbie-87plz
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Was that the sound of a ticked off weed wacker (trademark) in the back ground?
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Oh, you mean that thundering roar of that 4 banger? That thing sounds so sweet!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you waste your money on that $h!t?It is really a testament to the strength of our cars..... but isn't it funny how it took a lighter car.... with 2 extra cylinders... and 14 year newer technology.... plus a shot of nitrous.... before he would talk trash to a stock T-Type....
I also agree with others.... his kit might go down to 100 HP... but is that what he will actually race with.....and "street tires" these days definately doesn't exclude drag radials or ET streets.... which stick almost as good as slicks.....
Smells like he is laying for you.....
I also agree with others.... his kit might go down to 100 HP... but is that what he will actually race with.....and "street tires" these days definately doesn't exclude drag radials or ET streets.... which stick almost as good as slicks.....
Smells like he is laying for you.....
With the mods he has listed??? Not only NO, but ****NO. Let's try and be realistic here.
I agree with Dave. In fact if the Alky kit is just bolted on and he races he could slow down! If there is one thing that I have leared with these cars it's that every time a change is made to the car - chip, turbo, exaust, etc, it takes a good session or two of tuning to get the car dialed in.
His signature says 99 mph - no way a 99 mph car will outrun an ls1 - even up on the mountain where I live.
His signature says 99 mph - no way a 99 mph car will outrun an ls1 - even up on the mountain where I live.
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Here is the deal with VHT. You do not want to spray it directly on your tires at speed, because it will act the same as spraying water onto your tires. VHT was meant to either be sprayed onto a tracks surface and let the heat activate it, so as to make the existing rubber more sticky. It's a proven fact that if you do not wait the recommended 15 minutes for the VHT to set into the rubber, the first few cars down will spin. Been there, done that many times.
The other time VHT is meant to be used, is for doing burnouts at your spot of choice. You pour out a small puddle in front of both your rear tires, pull into the puddle, do your burn out laying down a pair of hot and sticky stripes that you will back into and launch from. Do not pour the puddle down with the car lined up at the exact starting point, as doing so could cause you too spin on the start. If there is any of the puddle left that didn't get burnt during the burn out, and it flows in front of the tires, you will spin. It's best to pour the VHT about 1/2 a car length behind the rear tires where the car is to be staged. You want to do a burn out across the starting line as straight as possible and back into your tracks. The washer pump and bottle trick with nozzles is an old hot rodder trick and bison is right, make sure it can't be activated when the car is running. Only problem with that setup is, you will have to clean the nozzles/tubes often as they will gum up and get clogged with burnt rubber and road debris. No biggie, just time consuming to clean. I've had my run ins in the past with modded LS1s on spray.
One of the only races I ever lost on the street in my old grey car was when I had my girdle motor and 70 p-trim combo and made the mistake of thinking I could race on pump gas and take down a 11.30 LS1 T/A. I agreed to give him the break, which was mistake number 1 on my part. Then, I couldn't get the boost up high enough due to bad brakes and bogged off the line. He held a 1 1/2 cars on me the entire race. His best track pass was an 11.30 @ 119, my best track pass was a 10.96 @ 125 on 27psi. All it took was for me to bog off the line and not be able to run the boost as high as I normally would. LS1s are quick cars on the street when done right. It doesn't take much of a driver if the car is an auto either. Whole other story if it's a 6 speed with a shooter tho.
Good luck with your race.
Patrick
The other time VHT is meant to be used, is for doing burnouts at your spot of choice. You pour out a small puddle in front of both your rear tires, pull into the puddle, do your burn out laying down a pair of hot and sticky stripes that you will back into and launch from. Do not pour the puddle down with the car lined up at the exact starting point, as doing so could cause you too spin on the start. If there is any of the puddle left that didn't get burnt during the burn out, and it flows in front of the tires, you will spin. It's best to pour the VHT about 1/2 a car length behind the rear tires where the car is to be staged. You want to do a burn out across the starting line as straight as possible and back into your tracks. The washer pump and bottle trick with nozzles is an old hot rodder trick and bison is right, make sure it can't be activated when the car is running. Only problem with that setup is, you will have to clean the nozzles/tubes often as they will gum up and get clogged with burnt rubber and road debris. No biggie, just time consuming to clean. I've had my run ins in the past with modded LS1s on spray.
One of the only races I ever lost on the street in my old grey car was when I had my girdle motor and 70 p-trim combo and made the mistake of thinking I could race on pump gas and take down a 11.30 LS1 T/A. I agreed to give him the break, which was mistake number 1 on my part. Then, I couldn't get the boost up high enough due to bad brakes and bogged off the line. He held a 1 1/2 cars on me the entire race. His best track pass was an 11.30 @ 119, my best track pass was a 10.96 @ 125 on 27psi. All it took was for me to bog off the line and not be able to run the boost as high as I normally would. LS1s are quick cars on the street when done right. It doesn't take much of a driver if the car is an auto either. Whole other story if it's a 6 speed with a shooter tho.
Good luck with your race.
Patrick
I know this post is going on forever, Guess it shows don't talk racing with a turbo man unless you have some time, RUQWKNF has a good point when it comes to turbo Buick's, One little mistake and a 10 sec. Buick runs low 12's, If I don't get the boost up on my GN it runs 12.30's and worse, I have a LS1 and you can't make a mistake with it come off the line at high rpm or at idle makes little diff.
turbojimmy
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All bench-racing posts go on forever until the OP comes back with results. It's part of the fun.
The faster a car is, whether a TR or an LS1, the farther it has to fall if mistakes are made. Any 10-second car can easily become a 12-second car if you blow the launch, miss a shift, whatever.
Jim
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incubus2432
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Exactly......I beat a new Z06 at the track with my current time. I should have lost but apparently the Z06 driver wasn't up to the task.
I was just happy that he wouldn't even look in my direction after the race.Exactly......apparently the Z06 driver wasn't up to the task.
Most aren't
I once let my wife take my car down the track. I ran a 12.1, she ran a 14.2, then I ran a 12.2 - no changes at all were made to the car.
AsheboroGN
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make sure your suspension hooks. That could be the deciding factor. It sounds like the z should be making more power. That should be an 11 sec car if he can drive the Z and has the suspension dialed in. Be careful and have fun. Dont under estimate nitrous as well. My car is very mild and I am running 150-200 shot and it runs well esp. for what it is. the suspension has alot to do with it though.
Nasty Wendy
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I know what I'd do. I'd install a 150 shot of Nitrous to my car too.
Me too.:biggrin:
I remember being the underdog with my nearly stock GN back in the mid 90's but that didnt last long. I remember beating the hell out of several nitroused Mustangs back then. The car went 12.40 on street tires when i ran it back in 95. 2 years later with my replacement after my first was stolen went 11.88 with it nearly stock. Now i could show up with a stock TR and have the bench racers thinking it runs 10's. Its still a feather in their cap if they beat a TR even though the car theyre racing against is 20 years old or more.
