Before Black BS'ing thread.

[WarWagon]

I thought all of "those" type of mail trucks were all based off of the Ford Ranger.

 

[Goat]

dunno

 

[CamoDeafie]

they're Grumman; and uses the Pontiac 4 cylinder engine; suspension is similar to S10, some parts are also GM made

 

[mat231v6]

Looks interesting to say the least.

it looks cool in the picture.
it would be the first custom mail truck i have ever seen.

 

[Goat]

yea I will do it soon enough.

 

[WarWagon]

YaY!

 

[charlief1]

Looks like a RWD block and heads with a very modified FWD intake. Very cool Adam.

 

[CamoDeafie]

awesome................thats one awesome looking engine!

can a C/T system or Blow Through 3.8L turbo engine get a similar car (same model, but 83 not 88) to the same approximate ET? the vid shows 12.8something, and the car uses a Series 2 L67 minus the supercharger, but has a custom turbo tune and stock 4 speed trans....the guy has a 2.1 60 ft time; so apparently traction is the main issue i'm seeing here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhe7OCRyCN4&feature=related

 

[WarWagon]

Not in that video in your last post. That car had traction, it didn't really even spin any at the line, just a few chirps. What I didn't see that makes me think that car had traction was: No excessive wheel spin or tire smoke from that, The sound the engine made was a steady RPM increase=hooking up.

 

[futten]

which video is this?

 

[Goat]

Its like christmas going threw my dads old stuff and finding things. Damn I wish I could stand the cold, but in my current state it hurts to be out here.

 

[CamoDeafie]

which video is this?

Warwagon is referring to the video I posted of the 87/88 Cutlass Ciera W45 (87 GT or International for 88) 2 door with the L67 Series 2 engine turbocharged (no supercharger) making a 12.83 second run, with a 2.1 60 ft according to the owner of the car (turboL67 on youtube comments); last dyno run he made, the dyno recorded around 450-505 HP at the wheels; and he stated that he wants to reduce the 60' time I'm not sure how he's gonna do so; but he's inspired me to try reach 12-14 seconds with carbed turbo engine in an older Ciera might be for naught, unless i go for newer blocks and distributorless ignition system

oh yeah.

local auto stealership has an 80s Regal 2 door Limited with the half vinyl roof (landau?) and a CRAPPY rattlecan paintjob; needs new bumper up front, clearly fillers need replacing as well; has a 5.0L (307 right?) 2bbl carb engine in there...they're asking $895, but i'd offer $500 if you guys think it'd be OK for a swap candidate?

 

[charlief1]

I'd offer them $500 and see if they take it first Stephen. It would be perfect to drop a 350 Olds in just like it is though.

 

[mat231v6]

i was looking on ebay and i found some crazy things.
can some one say ram air. why would you cut your hood like that.
Chevrolet : Monte Carlo - eBay (item 330503276322 end time Dec-08-10 12:45:22 PST)
this is way to much for the carb pad.
VINTAGE TURBO DRAW-THRU 4 BBL CARB PAD WATER COOLED - eBay (item 320627187104 end time Dec-12-10 16:19:07 PST)

 

[CamoDeafie]

did Buick make a 350ish sized engine in the late 70s? would that be hard to find? I was thinking RWD L36 engine block with V6 camaro trans attached to it, twin turbo it, and see what happens; as there may be a L36 camaro in the yard with the forward facing TB intake; this would be rather funky and creative, no? going new direction for swaps....just to piss people off lol..maybe even leave the crappy paint until the engine/trans is done....there aint no market for the Olds 307 is there?

 

[charlief1]

Buick made a 350 CID engine from 68 to 80. He!! of a torque monster.

 

[WarWagon]

Warwagon is referring to the video I posted of the 87/88 Cutlass Ciera W45 (87 GT or International for 88) 2 door with the L67 Series 2 engine turbocharged (no supercharger) making a 12.83 second run, with a 2.1 60 ft according to the owner of the car (turboL67 on youtube comments); last dyno run he made, the dyno recorded around 450-505 HP at the wheels; and he stated that he wants to reduce the 60' time I'm not sure how he's gonna do so; but he's inspired me to try reach 12-14 seconds with carbed turbo engine in an older Ciera might be for naught, unless i go for newer blocks and distributorless ignition system

oh yeah.

local auto stealership has an 80s Regal 2 door Limited with the half vinyl roof (landau?) and a CRAPPY rattlecan paintjob; needs new bumper up front, clearly fillers need replacing as well; has a 5.0L (307 right?) 2bbl carb engine in there...they're asking $895, but i'd offer $500 if you guys think it'd be OK for a swap candidate?

Don't care what what the Youtube guy says: that cutty isn't making (450-505hp) besides that's a hell of a gap to be talking about power on a dyno 55hp! difference, If that was true that car would boil the hides 'till the 1/8 mile or further with the tires it had on it being FWD and all that. still not bad at all he just got it out of the 13's.
Just sayin...

 

[CamoDeafie]

I seem to remember a general rule being that for FWD cars needing more power to get to the same times as a RWD car due to the whole weight transfer thing? I mean; I distinctly remember several FWD cars only getting up to 13s or less even with lots of mods to their L67s or v8 swapped into the system; most are also automatics with 4 speeds and computer shifting; not sure what usually required of the autos to stand up to the power, or if its the whole power transfer thing';

i just found the thread where he's talking about dyno time...ok looks like I was a little off; 413 wheel horsepower; but with 20% loss, it equated out to 516hp to 560hp(30% loss) and his sig said 450+ hp. whoops. here's his cam specs and turbo specs; not sure of the compression ratio but think its stock L67;
212°, .520" lift and 113° lobe separation, 60-1 turbo, close to a T61; a 60mm turbo, not sure of hotside or A/R ratio though. he says he hasn't gotten a 120 trap speed yet....so what would that mean? I remember Bison saying dyno's crap, need trap/et to figure out hp? car is around 3200 pounds, maybe a little more, not sure since the L67 and turbo stuff adds weight compared to the stock engine it had.

 

[mat231v6]

I seem to remember a general rule being that for FWD cars needing more power to get to the same times as a RWD car due to the whole weight transfer thing? I mean; I distinctly remember several FWD cars only getting up to 13s or less even with lots of mods to their L67s or v8 swapped into the system; most are also automatics with 4 speeds and computer shifting; not sure what usually required of the autos to stand up to the power, or if its the whole power transfer thing';

i just found the thread where he's talking about dyno time...ok looks like I was a little off; 413 wheel horsepower; but with 20% loss, it equated out to 516hp to 560hp(30% loss) and his sig said 450+ hp. whoops. here's his cam specs and turbo specs; not sure of the compression ratio but think its stock L67;
212°, .520" lift and 113° lobe separation, 60-1 turbo, close to a T61; a 60mm turbo, not sure of hotside or A/R ratio though. he says he hasn't gotten a 120 trap speed yet....so what would that mean? I remember Bison saying dyno's crap, need trap/et to figure out hp? car is around 3200 pounds, maybe a little more, not sure since the L67 and turbo stuff adds weight compared to the stock engine it had.

can you post the link to the thread?

 

[CamoDeafie]

My L67 Swapped ciera
6 pages of thread, some videos in there;

anyways on topic-ish...I'm still wondering about carb and turbo system on a FWD 3.8 in an older ciera, what would be the power goal to shoot for in order to maybe get into the same ET with a 3 speed auto?